And as always, you don't have to read video assessment or even get bothered by it, thus you comment is totally pointless. Strange it worked perfectly and now lost some compatible . LOL, SPEED LIMITS!!! A similar argument to yours would be that most people are astronauts, only they don't have money for spaceships, so they ride trains and buses instead. 28mm or 35mm are quite typical photojournalism AOVs. The OP clearly means old as in an older design not developed as native for the RF mount and therefore not optimised for it. Continued... Not sure how you can suggest I'm not empathetic. As we continue to test Nikon's update of its multimedia full-framer, we've added more of our findings so far on image quality, dynamic range and video quality. Native ISO 100–32,000, with expansion to ISO 50–102,400, Up to 5 fps shooting with continuous AE/AF tracking, Single SD card slot (with UHS-II support). And from a technical standpoint, you're absolutely correct. I just wonder if I might be wrong and you two right, so I made a little test. Improvement are so small now. I’ve been a Sony mirrorless user since the NEX-6. You seem you have difficulty accepting that. Well to be honest you seem way to overly cautious to be putting yourself in any situation that would place yourself in any danger let alone a camera. You are pushing the one dimensional argument. What matters is the diameter of the aperture (the pupil) of the lens. They use very minimal set ups and are actually proud of the fact. And consequence of that is there is now a quantifiable point from which to say that old offerings are obsolete. And then their stubbornness melts really fast. Oh and Michael were the hell did you see that packed, the cheapest I could get that package would have been £1250. RP now meets much of the criticism. Nothing is for ever. It would be counterproductive. Actually your suggestion is the gamble. The Z5 uses the same viewfinder found on the Z6 which is a very good thing: it has a … I have single lenses that cost significantly more than your entire kit, but they won’t loose value. Regarding "Canon color", that's always been to me. It seemed to be the perfect successor for my five year old Canon EOS 5DSR*: Roughly the same number of megapixels while improving on dynamic range, increasing the ISO performance, adding IBIS, a fully articulating screen and 4K Video.In a nutshell, my expectations were for it to outmatch my 5DSR in any area except resolution … Pure talent without skills and professionalism is called dilettantism.You don't need to go to the North Pole to kill your camera. Consumer cameras are fine for a walk in the park. Risk to dive in and be comfortable with whatever you can afford, risk to just give it a go. You haven’t tried anything. You gave it. I get paid for photography it’s where I make 100% of my income. As you might expect, it lacks various things in comparison to the more advanced R model. The color profile feels like Nat Geo tribal portraits, not journalism, particularly not war journalism. Those who’ve used it: It is actually quite nice. get a clue. And they don't have to deal with the mode dial nonsense." That tells really how all over the places you are.Btw: "The fact that you litter a Canon forum for an entry level mirrorless camera with your Sony mantra only enforces my earlier points" no, I am simply responding to your post:"Most Sony users are delusional hacks with an inferiority complex. I know well paid commercial photographers that make a great living shooting 6Ds or D750’s (they use pro lenses) however, the sensors are as good as a $6000 D5 that they can easily afford - but professionals don’t waste money on features they don’t need. I have friends that started out with less than a 6d. To date ONLY the Lumix S1/S1R has ergos that i may be able to work with as a primary body. You might laugh. The unprofessional blame their tools. "It takes risk" - Yeah, that's why you are not a professional. What? The Canon EOS R’s CMOS sensor achieves an overall DxOMark score of 89 points, which is 29th place among all small- and medium-format cameras in our database. Forget about the RP gamble. As the first and only entry-level full-frame mirrorless camera currently available, the Canon EOS RP provides an easier entry into the full-frame mirrorless market than the EOS R from a pricing point of view. It can also capture 4K video in 4:2:2 10-bit up to 120fps with no recording limits, and maxes out at 180fps in crop mode – all while recording sound, and with full Dual Pixel AF, subject tracking and touch focus. 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But there will be no end to that. I hear those brides can get pretty crazy when the sh!t hits the fan. Renting bodies is expensive long term. I just don't call them professional photographers. They stated with apsc and some basic lenses. Obviously, if you can afford the higher price, go for the EOS-R which has a lot of better features and a bigger battery. I saw no raw or video, but was impressed at the balance. You can get a silicon body wrap for pretty much any camera going these days. As for low expectations this is magnum- it’s one of the highest regarded photo agencies today. Those who’ve never seen, held or used it: It has the mark of the beast.2. Similarly "and this is simply because the EVF does not match a high quality OVF" another false myth, especially when talking about the A9 blackout-less EVF. Entrance pupil is the visible diameter of the aperture trough the lens front element. Many of the lesser photographers I know use better gear. With 24-105 F4 L USM - great walk-around combo. The RP felt very very toyish... in comparison the outdated but more affordable A7ii felt more solid in the hand and I see a lot of people complaining that the A7ii is very toyish feeling. Hahaha! But when your are "out in the field", you need your camera to perform adequately. not looking at screen for ages, but taking pics quickly and doing the odd focus chimping managed 800 images with a bit left in the battery. I doubt they will ever get fixed. You realize the RP has an FF sensor, right? And yet you have to use more than just one film camera to have some sort of redundancy. I get to buy and shoot what gear I like and travel freely. zxaar - Plenty of people here will slam a camera they've never used, especially people in the Sony vs Canon camp, and the M43 vs FF camp. I’d skip the 28- 70 and go the 24-105 f4 on one body for the wide and long end + get a 50mm 1.2 on the other body for low light. It's like if someone divorced their first wife and remarried, but then spent all of their time obsessing over their first wife and her faults. Although the body has an unusually compact silhouette, it retains the familiar EOS ergonomics from the company’s DSLRs and drops the controversial touch bar of the EOS R. The top-plate LCD of the EOS R has also been replaced in favor of a more conventional mode dial. Even the Canon Digital Rebel (300D) had 10.8 stops. Why Canon user would want to spend this much today on yesterday technology? I will never downplay the significance of war photography. With the EF-RF adapter the sky’s the limit and a very large number of EF compatible glass are great optically too. Better bodies will come out you will have the lenses ready for it when it does. This is a very artful series in its larger social comment. At ISO 100, the Sony a7R III has a Photographic Dynamic Range (PDR) of 11.64, the Nikon Z7 is 10.98, and the Canon EOS R is in last with 10.6. And it performs almost identically against the Nikon Z 6, which has a similar sensor resolution, with little more than +0.1 EV difference between them. yesterdays technology is not meaningfully different than todays technology. Tempting entry camera despite its flaws for me as someone who wants to finally try full-frame. Incompatible Flash or Flash's Power is turned Off" Previously using the Yongnou Wireless Flash Trigger I could change the Flash Power via the Flash Function Settings Tab on the Camera. Eeeaaasssyyy for Nikon to update the D500 to the not-so-new D7500's functionality. The problem here isn't pixel count, it's readout design. So, the 85mm fills the whole frame with light ONLY collected from the narrower FOV, whereas the 50mm fills the frame with light collected from a wider FOV. MIOPS has announced Flex, a new smart camera gadget designed to make it easy and simple to capture lightning strikes, action images, holy grail timelapse videos and much more. There are a lot of photo/video cameras that have found a role as B-cameras on professional productions or A-camera for amateur and independent productions. Whats your point. You overheads are actually less as you are not supporting another business, you can charge a little less to recoup the expenses over a longer period. Quick update, I can push iso 4 stops no bother without noise showing it’s ugly mug. Uncle Bob doesn't qualify as a pro. Has mirrorless now been accepted as no longer exotic but just another technical feature of mainstream cameras? Coming to you from Manny Ortiz, this excellent video compares the dynamic range of the new Canon EOS R5 to the Sony a7R III. Consumer camera doesn't turn into a professional tool just because you think that you are a big pro. I think a D7200 (for built-in flash) or D500 (for tons of better features AND if external flash is feasible) would be about ideal. Enjoy your better haptics while I get the better pictures.On a different note, ALL sport photographers I know would love to switch to the A9. If budget is an issue or business requirement; it is far more professional to have multiple cameras than 1 pro body and no back up. You don't make any logical sense and you gamble a lot. You clearly have no idea of what an A9 especially with current firmware is capable of, with native glass and even with Canon glass. Especially with old manual lenses and Canon EF through adapter. You compromise but you build a folio that will get you higher paying jobs and lift your reputation. Both cameras have Full frame sensors but Sony A7c has a 24.0 MP and Canon RP has a 26.0 MP resolution. For these that defined the RP the original Rebel of FF and that will break the market because of "the cheapest FF yet" might want to look at the sale trend: And so it goes.... Lol, OMFG! But even more so because Sony fanb0ys are going to litter all of DPR with "but the a6400 does this and that so the camera you're talking about is crap.". I did buy an extra 5 batteries after reading that the shot count was around 275 shots. @gfperez:Oh, now i understand what you mean... Actually, at 85mm f2.0 (true circle aperture) the aperture will have 2.89x as much area as 50mm f2.0. Changed back to Manual Mode and the Flash work correctly again? However this was never my point. @Sir 7, sorry I don’t buy the right pace right time luck argument. The RP is very much an easy camera to use. Fujifilm has announced a special version of its 100MP GFX 100 for infrared imaging. I bought a A7 Mark II at 999USD with a kit lens! Because on paper it looks like a sports monster, but in-hand begs to be thrown in the trash. Your Oly is a joke compared to the A9. That's kind of the position I'm in with the Lumix S1/R... Nikon D7200 has better sensor D500. Why don't you use the same logic on lenses? If I was starting out again. They now make really good livings. Ergonomics and AF prowess are THE biggest determinants for whether you get the shot or not. Some people are used to 11fps now to do whatever. That said, for me, Brown's war coverage is a classic example of "right place right time." And these two things alone are a deal-breaker for me. You make do with what you have and you work your way up. And yet I still do not know one person who owns a Sony camera... Every article about a Canon camera has a Sony sales pitch in the comments. It destroys anything you have ever produced with your A9. Rent money is dead money. Where did you get this nonsensical idea that a pro always has to be a cheap-@$$? This difference isn’t going to be noticed in everyday scenes, but it may be visible in some extreme cases. This is not really objective data, it's DPR's somewhat confusing rating system, and I believe it is not directly comparable to other categories of camera. Small size offset by big lens blah blah. Canonists obviously don't want to look at these things and we have these ridiculous color science and handling arguments that are so 1990's. Canon has that lens covered for me. Even if you only get half the money back you got good use from it and it’s covered in your fee + tax and you still have something to show for it. It is. Wanna talk about getting a bone from a cameramaker... Nikon STILL has not added touchscreen menu functionality on the D500! An extremely good review of this camera has just been posted on Northlight: Take a closer look. Lol, he shoots Sony. At the moment only experienced with M50 but RP will be soon in my hands (unbelievable offer with adapter and RF 35mm).And same here: All my EF lenses are not for sale because they are good enough for 30-40 MPixels in the FF world - just the 24mm version one EF lens has very good IQ despite its age. IF you are a professional.Professionals can shoot non-professionally as well and they can use whatever they want. The new camera will be available for special order in early 2021. Then I am an astronaut. The X-T3 and GH5S are closest to S-LOG 2 in the overall look. Needn’t have bought so many as using it more like a traditional slr I.e. Everyone starts from somewhere including the best and they started with far less, but nothing is certain in business. You are a cheap photog. Every time you respond here you continue to project the stance that it is the camera that makes a good photograph. You need at least 5D3 level of tools. On top of that jpg for HDR? See, I don't need to attach my name to anything, because I'm not a pro. "Hell I’d choose the pro over uncle bob even if the seasoned pro was using a couple of second hand Canon rebels fitted with kit lenses. I've never considered mirrorless exotic at all, no offense. Read the manual. I am starting to believe that I am the only one who LIKES Sony controls. His net worth is 8 million dollars all achieved with cameras that set him back a few hundred $. Some just get lucky. Most full frame cameras are prosumer and sealed. When someone questions their gear - they wear it like a badge of honour, because they know that when it comes to the photos, they are the real professionals. That somehow based on your experience I should come to the same conclusions or agree with you. But "poor" performance by today's standards is truly just a lower degree of genuinely very good. In some cases, the best sensors are as much as +2 EV or more ahead at base ISO. You live in a fantasy world and you dream about becoming a "princess" just by taking risks. I’m an arts based photographer that utilises a variety of cameras that best suit my intentions across varied and diverse range of output. Anyone can make money as a "cheap photographer" these days. Let alone the utter lack of essential ergonomics and inability to focus in anything but good light. And of a size and weight that won't hinder the photographer. Only 0.2 EV(ISO 2742 vs. 3207) separates the EOS R from the best-performing Canon sensor, found in th… A7 MK1 with EF 85 1.8 USM is great budget portrait combo. It shows that with the new firmware, the electronic level still disappears when face-/eye-detect AF is enabled!?! It all happened so fast. Well actually in low light the EVF does BETTER than human eye. If Canon was to change, many would go back and that would be the hope. If you actually took time to look at this book and look at the history of war documentation. Another demonstration of your complete ignorance and detachment from reality. At higher ISOs, there’s even less difference among them, with all three dipping just beneath our 20dB lower-quality threshold when set to ISO 51,200. It was the quirky controls and interface that really put me off. Posted by 1 year ago. BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA! That's why my 6D didn't break yet. I know who I’d be choosing. It's stupid to assume that everyone with a proper camera wants to become a professional photographer. A camera is more than the sum of its parts. Canon EOS R vs EOS RP: Dynamic range (chart) Close. But then you are not really a professional if you have no money for proper tools. The RP is not in the same league as the A7III but for those who have a lot of Canon lenses and don’t need the A7III features it’s a very credible camera. *At the same aperture, 85mm lenses are about 1 stop faster than 50mm lenses and 2-3 stops faster than 35mm lenses. @kodacolor200"I have used the A9 enough to come to my own conclusions and expectations"for once you might want to be specific, in a sea of vaporware: how long ago you used the A9 and how long you used it for, what have you used it for. OK that ain't going to happen (from Canon) but the close options have been missed too. You photograph trees and cats and pretend to know things Yodaboy! “It’s not my problem” is the attitude that gives leaders a free pass to do nothing. Sony's new Visual Story app for iOS promises event and wedding photographers a variety of useful tools, designed to simplify their workflow and enhance their business. In reality, a few serious splashes of water (liquid) can damage a semi-pro class of camera like 5D series. I already love it. a6400 does exactly that 11fps with a near 100% hit rate... the eos rp does 1-2fps in continuous autofocus. DJI's second-generation Pocket camera includes a long list of useful upgrades including a wider, faster lens, a larger sensor, more resolution, improved audio and an optional handle that significantly improves control and supports live streaming. As ISO values climb, the EOS RP and 6D Mark II show essentially identical noise performance$(document).ready(function() { $("#icl-4422--476200317").click(function() { ImageComparisonWidgetLink(4422); }); }), as we'd expect, and pull ahead$(document).ready(function() { $("#icl-4423-1080553596").click(function() { ImageComparisonWidgetLink(4423); }); }) of the similarly priced (at the time of this writing) Sony a7 II. @gravis92"yesterdays technology is not meaningfully different than todays technology". For all the A9 specs it’s haptics and ergonomics are sorely lacking vs the competition and the build is subpar vs the competition also. Convenient for iPhone. Terry Richardson one of the highest paid fashion photographers today developed his style using compact 35mm film cameras he also uses consumer lumix camera to achieve his particular style. It’s more than good enough. I’m actually embarrassed by your stupidity. The link I posted is to the reply from someone (who applied the new firmware) to my question about the behavior of the electronic level with the new firmware. In Denmark we have low light during much of the year, so it is important that my cams can handle darkness - and the RP hasn't dissapointed me. The fact that the photographer has used an iPhone actually speaks about the larger context of contemporary society today. Review: Does the Canon Rebel T8i DSLR make sense in an increasingly mirrorless world? Same camera, same processing. Overall performance puts it alongside the 12.2MP Sony A7S II, and just behind the 30MP Canon EOS R—the closest camera to the RP with a similar pixel count. dpr4bb - The link you posted above doesn't seem to mention anything about the electronic level. In this review, we will be comparing A7c and EOS RP, two Advanced Mirrorless cameras from Sony and Canon. If your a sports photographer you probably shouldn’t shoot a Leica. If you don't make money - you are not a pro. What follows are the headiest products of 2020, the ones photographers really want. If what I say is true, the first image should have more noise because its area is 4 times smaller (2 stops lower). It has the same dynamic range of around 12 stops as my 5D MkIII, which is almost 8 years old. Many of the most celebrated portraits photographers shoot MF film today. Worth mentioning are some annoying and seemingly arbitrary ergonomic limitations that affect this camera, as well as other Canon models:1) The electronic level disappears when you enable face-/eye-detect AF.2) The electronic level, as well as the histogram and the gird lines, disappear when movie recording starts.Canon, please throw a bone or two to your loyal customers and fix these limitations. The RF 50 f1.2 is ridiculously good, the Sony 24 GM won the lens of the year prize, good, I had two of them, faulty AF (on A7III and A7RIII) and huge field distortion, the RF is so much better! Battery life? Sony users (trolls, not normal ones) are unreasonable to all brands, but especially against Canon. The higher iso quality is also acceptable to me.I had problems using my sigma 50mm 1.4 dg hsm but switching off the peripheral illumination correction seemed to prevent the large concentric rings which haloed my first shots. The 1st image has this settings: ISO 3200, 1/200s, 50mm f/2; the 2nd image: ISO 3200, 1/200s, 200mm f/4. Nikon Z5 vs Canon EOS RP vs Sony a7 II: how do they compare? EOS RP Summary. Check the resale on your 6d. Look, you want to hold the shutter button tape it to your body and capture the world in perfect 95% hit rate at 11fps? I'm not a pro. Every time you respond here you continue to project the stance that it is the camera that makes a good photograph. "Not now that the gods of Canikon have taken it up but when I bought my mirrorless it was like it was just one of the desperate quirky little things Olympus comes up with from time to time that will be forgotten tomorrow. "Secondary" doesn't mean that they matter the least. "Andreas Gursky and Jeff Wall are highly technical and are purely art photographers. Specially the big ones. you guys say there is none, Canon seems mute on the topic yet all other reviews say there IS weather sealing. Our test scene is designed to simulate a variety of textures, colors and detail types you'll encounter in the real world. Chris and Jordan take a look at the new Sigma 35mm F2 and 65mm F2. My father took shrapnel in WW2 and saw some horrible things. The new Laowa 15mm F4.5 Shift lens lets you go wide with perspective control. I have this camera and can testify for street and travel weight is so important. Though there have been some questions regarding evolving color science over the last several generations of Canon cameras, we still find them to offer up pleasing results overall$(document).ready(function() { $("#icl-4430--913159012").click(function() { ImageComparisonWidgetLink(4430); }); }). If these Sony users were so happy with Sony they wouldn't feel this "pain" from their old brand and just be enjoying their new brand. It is critical to journal the horror and ugliness, devastation and triumph, the absolute highs and lows that humans are capable of. My D700 which I used a lot has around 60,000 of its 150,000 rating still going strong but it’s long retired You will find D700 with more than 250,000 clicks all day long on eBay and they still work fine. Suddenly it becomes clear why both Canon and Nikon price these entries into their new lens mounts so low. The Canon RF 800mm F11's unique combination of telephoto reach, affordability and light weight will likely enable even more people to do the same. What you should understand is that there are many types of “pros” The best photographers I know use a camera that doesn’t get in the way and allows them to concentrate on the task at hand. Even at ISO 1600, the RP’s dynamic range contracts by just one 1 EV. using the site's specifications tool shows most of the differences between these cameras. The fact that you litter a Canon forum for an entry level mirrorless camera with your Sony mantra only enforces my earlier points. The most “pro” gear will not compensate for second rate ability. You would also note that in making a good photograph requires one to have creative facility. Like second from the top :). We're glad you asked. If you don’t need it, fine. Lower sensitivities also typically lead to better results in our tests, with the Canon in this case having the lowest at ISO 65, against ISO 74/77 for the other two—but there’s no real advantage in this case.). For a long time, DR was the be all and end all of camera quality. Soon we will be snagging 16mp frames from a video stream and people will say you cant be a professional without a camera that does that,,,,and 11fps is obsolete. I have Nikon gear, and I really like Nikon, but Sony it's quite good, and I can learn more easily and faster the Sony controls than the time I took for me learn the Nikon controls. If you spend time with the work these ideas trickle down. A utopia where you have endless connections and everyone immediately respects your abilities and is happy to pass on high paying gigs, with no history or experience to show for it. No price is given at this time, but the adapter is set to be available by the end of the year. Your problem is you can’t handle being wrong. Sorry but the human eye can distinguish over 1000fps through and OVF all you need to do is use an EVF in direct comparison with OVF to understand that the 120fps will still show clears signs of motion drag when panning - all EVFs have delay- Adjusting to a sub par EVF is not an option where an OVF gives you 100% capabilities of the human eye. Plus better AF frame coverage vs. FF. If I select Flash Function settings I do get "This menu cannot be displayed . Well as someone who makes a good living from photography, I’m telling you that tools are secondary to your ability to get results. You suggest that someone should rent to own a highly expensive camera that they cannot afford and to pay off that camera with jobs they do not have. More importantly, the EOS R comes with Canon Log 1 mode (12 stops of dynamic range at ISO 400) but the EOS RP does not. Yeah, because the a6400 is the pro sports photographers' gear of choice! In our latest buying guide we've selected some cameras that might be a bit older but still offer a lot of bang for the buck. If you are so paranoid and risk averse, a photography career is not for you! That's what the D510 will be for. Yesterday had a funny experience at the Dutch flower exhibition "De Keukenhof", well known for its abundance of flowers. If the same pixel design and readout / conversion accuracy is used in a full frame camera, it will translate to 14.16 Ev dynamic range normalized to 8 MP. I forgot but if i am right then it was fuji article. No. Whether you want to become a pro or not. A professional will be just that and be prepared with a second body and what ever is required to get the job done. That is why you are not a paid creative and miss the point. @Thoughts R Us"It's like if someone divorced their first wife and remarried".Nope, is not "spent all of their time obsessing over their first wife and her faults". The reason that leaders are not taking decisive action is because the voting public chooses to ignore the issue. Consumer cameras fail faster and more frequently than professional or semi-professional cameras for a reason. That's a trend with most of the critics of any brand: those who criticize the most haven't even used or held the camera, and are going by brand bias and paper specs. It’s a weak cop out and true inability to place your self in the situation. We could say that a 24mm lens with 13.3mm aperture can gather as much light as a 85mm lens with 47.2mm aperture, but talking about the F-number makes this much easier to notice. A September firmware update will bring some minor enhancements to the autofocus user experience in Canon's current full-frame mirrorless cameras. "You like to read others people comments in your own personal light, and sprinkle trivial facts to give some sense of validation of your subjective assumptions. I am going to keep with Sony and try to "invest" in the E-mount system because I am quite happy for what Sony gave in it's camera. Order the Canon EOS RP from Adorama. You can get professional results from the majority of cameras today. So much lighter than the EF version and much sharper. While the Canon EOS RP sensor lags behind the current best sensors in dynamic range by some margin, that’s not so much the case with noise levels, particularly at high ISOs. Inside the low-profile viewfinder hump is a 2.36 million-dot OLED viewfinder with 0.7x magnification and 100% coverage, while at the rear there’s a 7.5cm / 3.0-inch touch-enabled, fully articulating LCD. A professional who has worked extensively for years and has mastered their craft but is using a couple of 6d’s with entry level primes. Good luck. And yes there is a history of sports photography shot on slow film cameras that destroys anything you will ever produce with your Sony. And it’s quality. Your work is timid yet you think you know what it takes. Since i was a kid he said he'd never let me join the military. Please tell me how to do it! So, nobody bothers to over-deliver. The very marginal disadvantage you mention does not make up for real time exposure information, no blackout, brightness in low light seamless switching from EVF to monitor shooting etc. Throughout much of the lower- to mid-range (to ISO 3200), the RP is consistently around 0.8-1.2 bits lower than the Sony and the Nikon sensors, but the gap narrows after that, particularly compared with the Sony. Best entry-level full-frame mirrorless camera: Nikon Z5 vs. Canon EOS RP. Really enjoy the compact design, the sturdy feeling and the excellent lay out. The EOS RP camera has a standard ISO sensitivity range of 100-40000 for stills and 100-25600 for video (100-12800 for 4K video shooting). A camera can have better image quality across most of its image, then drop-off badly in the deep shadows, and still produce the same DR number as a camera that offers lower SNR across its whole image but is more consistent in the shadows (hint: that's what happening here). What is one season? Try digging some information about really unfortunate memory card and camera failures. My point is more philosophical than practical. Lol.... Ohh ... don't tell me that charlatans and dilettantes are never getting paid. Your general outlook and folio have a long way to go. But I'm getting better results with my setup, than most professionals offer. Many photographers shooting this Canon camera would make you look like a total loser regardless of the camera you were using. You need to pass this extra cost onto the client, making you less competitive in the market. My point is the photographer takes the pictures. You get hired on the merits of your work not your gear. You can see all results at Photons to Photos. Fuji burst anew onto the market with the so called 'Leica killers' - something people in droves actually wanted. Does the EOS RP have terrible dynamic range? "If you are a portrait photographer you don’t need a 1dx that shoots high bursts - And yet many professional portrait photographers prefer to use exactly that kind of cameras - 1DX, 1DXII, D5, D4, D4S, ... You have to understand that, for most people, you are just some anonymous guy from the Internet who doesn't even share any images and has a perspective on things like he's from a different reality. Understanding budgets and operating a profitable business is another means of being professional. Your free (Canon) converter you got with the purchase of the camera makes all EF lenses made from 1987 to today ('Old' and new) 100% compatible with the RP, and I'm pretty sure Canon will make sure they stay compatible as new EF lenses are released... Not accurate. For some it matters, for others not. As for the A9 I have tried it and didn’t like it. The a7 is a dog; poor color technology, very poor ergonomics, slow AF, nothing redeeming about it. Your argument is an oxymoron. Took my camera and zoom lens and shot at different focal lengths with the same settings: ISO 6400, 1/100s, f/8. Big sensor, small price point. DPR, Judge video crap on video cameras. I understand there are other cam's with other pro's and cons.Reading this forum amuses me: so many opinions, people who never ever touched the cam. Guess what? The majority of professionals actually shoot cameras like the 5d, 6d series. Overall nothing major to complain about, this camera works well for a good price. Or are you saving up $$ and courage for that d850 so you can start shooting weddings. You'd be very hard pressed to find any digital camera that doesn't have at least 10 (most current cameras are in the 12-14 stops range). Of the two cameras that we are comparing, A7 II has scored 90, 5 points higher than EOS RP. Uncomfortable or tense situations? Sorry but you seem to under the misguided assumption that your preference matters to me - it doesn’t. There is a reason single digit Canikons are still preferred over the A9 -for the simple reason that the A9 is not any better or more reliable than a DSLR. Consumer cameras are not meant to handle this kind of workloads or weather. dude. Trust me they can take a lot more than a walk in the park. Of those the Nikon Z6 strikes a surprisingly awesome balance between price and features but is in the same bad spot as for native lenses. But some people need as many fos to get a perfect moment. I don’t care. FYI. Gallery-caliber IQ. You just have to be there. Straight away we can see good detail capture$(document).ready(function() { $("#icl-4419--867727231").click(function() { ImageComparisonWidgetLink(4419); }); }) from the EOS RP, with slightly more aliasing on the text than the 6D Mark II - though they share a sensor, the RF 50mm F1.2 is just marginally sharper than our EF 85mm F1.8 studio lens used on the 6D (and we'll be changing over to an RF 85mm once we have one in our studio). It’s not a camera I would choose based on the many options available to me. Not everyone is. These are masterworks of the genre and why Michael Christopher Brown is a celebrated award winning photojournalist; working for the best photo agencies in the business. It scores above the Rebel in almost every category. "Well, I dunno about "exotic", lol! Who is right? I am fully expecting to call BS on their noise measurements. Fujifilm's 3.00 firmware update adds a new Pixel Shift Mult-Shot mode to its GFX 100 camera that works alongside a new Pixel Shift Combiner program to output 400MP Raw images made up from 16 individual still images. @Karl:I understand what you're saying. Funny guy, you are just so easy to read. Haha! This camera is good enough for still for any professional photographer, If you never need to shoot anything moving with more than 1fps perhaps. The first editions of the RP weren't able to film in 23.97 - and for some weird reason most Americans won't use the PAL (European TV system) even though modern TV sets are able to show PAL videos with the flip of a button. That's crazy. They are also highly professional. I agree. A D5 is better IMO for the work it was designed for. Are the usual derogatory comments just garden variety trolls or are the other companies paying these people to do it? If you're looking for a high-quality camera, you don't need to spend a ton of cash, nor do you need to buy the latest and greatest new product on the market. Take a look. I guess I got to tell that to my clients. re: EVFs and fast paced action is not a myth. Asked a friendly gentleman with a Nikon DSLR to take a picture of my parents en me. AOV) could often be the right tool for the job when incognito is important. When you compare them in equal conditions (RP and Nikon Z6/Z7 at 3200, and FF Sony's and FF DSLRs at 6400)*, you see that the RP is better than the DSLRs and the Sony's, and is only surparssed by the Z6. #3 Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III. ... (High Dynamic Range) Shooting .....171 Interval Timer Shooting ... stop using the product immediately and rest for a while before resuming use. Canon EOS RP RAW File REVIEW. The Leica Q2 Monochrom is a version of the Gold Award-winning Q2 that only shoots images in black and white. The funny thing is that the 1050 EUR includes not only the F-RF adapter but the RF 35 1.8 macro lens I coinsidered as flexible allround lens ... so I couldn't resist and i will believe it only if the items are there :). That said, the 24-105 is FANTASTIC!! IQ at low ISO is fine, it is great at high ISOs and colors OOC are the best. Did you shoot a perfectly even scene; like a 1-color wall? Canon RF 24-240mm f/4-6.3 IS USM Lens. BTW - What kind of situation are you exactly worried about? This is fallacy. No only fools waste money, sure you could get 2 D610, but for the money you waste renting 1 d850, you can get a couple d750’s. The RP is a fine camera, unfortunately, in my opinion, Canon is trying to squeeze premium money out of it. To me Sony seems a horrible choice as well, except for the quiet shutter. This little cheap lovely camera checks many boxes and let me enter the RF lenses world. not much mention of the great flip out rotating touch screen, which has a great feel, is super easy to use and is a much better design than nearly anything else other full frame mirrorless cams. ), in which Canon cameras essentially expose at the next lowest "full stop" ISO analog amplification and then include instructions to "push" exposure (and noise) 1/3 stop in raw development. An 85mm f2 lens has a 42mm diameter, a 50mm f2 lens has a 25mm diameter. So far so good. No, save us from cynical naysayers and pessimistic losers. That said it is probably about all you can get from Canon for the price in a Full Frame. That’s the right camera, that’s the most professional tool. It’s what stops you from seeing the creative potential in a camera like the RP. You also insure them against failing. Photokina has announced via a press release that after 70 years of shows in Cologne, Germany, it will be indefinitely suspended due to 'decreases in the imaging market’ that have ‘force[d] a hard cut.’. You have a set in stone idea what constitutes a professional and it’s an old stereotype.. Whilst I’m not a commercial photographer. Your strategy is BS. The EOS RP is classified as an entry-level model in Canon’s full-frame mirrorless range. Art is not entertainment. Canon EOS R6 – Latitude (Underexposure) Test It is also quite a bit cheaper.Similarly Canon 5DIV's sensor is better than 1DX II up to ISO12800. With the EOS RP, the marketing department gets to promote an ISO 100-40000 range, adjustable in 1/3 stop increments with full stop increment expansion settings up to 51200 and 102400, down to 50. thanks. the Canon EOS R or the A7 III! Is D7200 a better camera?Nikon D810's sensor is better than Nikon D5 up to like ISO6400. But if anyone wanting to start out and was on a budget (most are to a degree) and wanted to go Canon mirrorless, I would say get the RP and invest in glass over the R, because the glass (great glass btw) will be the better long term investment. You are right @ZapperDK, I hoped that the RF 15-35 2.8 and RF 70-200 2.8 would be available 1 or 2 month after the RP release ! I don’t show pics because a) it’s a professional conflict of interest b) unlike you, my actual name is attached to them. Utter Ignorance! I turned off eye detect as it was too sensitive, kept turning screen of when I moved hand to tap to focus. Usually costs 1423 euros. @entonman It has not been fixed: I think Sony users are being unreasonable tough on the RP. “I can cross a road on red light unharmed doesn’t mean it’s safe” Lol - well you better stay out of Libya, Syria etc.. . Despite the Naysayers the Canon RP is not a lousy camera. For one aspect ratio is far more suited to the genre. Get over it. It seems opinions of the RP are sharply divided into two camps: 1. There is a larger social comment at work, which goes beyond straight reportage. I don’t. I wonder how people feel now that the RP has been out for awhile, it's now $999 and it's getting a 4.7 rating on B&H. @armandino: That's quite an excuse for Sony trolling. Maybe the A7III would do. Sony A7c was introduced to market in September 2020 and Canon RP … As for high definition photography most ff cameras are weather sealed. I think my 2 previous posts clearly express otherwise. I always judge a photo by the content or story it carry, not from what camera it was shot wirh. So, A7M2 is cheaper and better (has IBIS) than Canon RP. Are you shooting jpeg only? Without bag and card, but with the RF 35mm lens. Depends who’s using the camera. How much the aperture has to be bigger is linearly correlated to focal length. No matter what, i cannot get excited about or use a MILC that has poor ergos. @kodacolor200"You would also note that in making a good photograph requires one to have creative facility. For a first owner without Canon history there is almost no lenses available, I own one and I must buy old EF lenses, lol, You can buy new EF lenses, they don’t need to be used. ... About a bit over one stop in DR between 100 and 400 ISO. For a full frame camera with no mirror it delivers outstanding value. That is true, but not for your reasoning, as I have already stated, and if Nikon and Canon do not change their path this will not be the case for very long. Not on the subject of the A9 or photography in general. But this sensor in an ergonomically awesome MILC would make me think about it. The biggest downside is that silent shutter is only available in "Scenery" mode, but I find the shutter noise to be very quiet already and shouldn't be an issue in 99% of the situations. The A9 expands creativity when compared to the 1DX or the D5 at so many different levels it is not even funny. You then upgrade your gear and repeat. This is the same as "exposing to the left" by 1/3 stop. I shoot high definition photography in the form of MF and they are not weather sealed. At $999 the comments would have been: "Price is wrong. Despite the market positioning of the RP, there are some surprise features, such as Bluetooth and Wi-Fi for wireless smart device connectivity and tethered control, focus bracketing, and a built-in interval timer. Hell I’d choose the pro over uncle bob even if the seasoned pro was using a couple of second hand Canon rebels fitted with kit lenses. It is one of the most important things really. I would not take this camera to a sports match let alone a war zone . The Canon EOS RP is the second full-frame mirrorless camera after the EOS R to feature the company’s RF mount, and while it is one of the least expensive current generation full-frame mirrorless models available (aimed at entry-level users), it still has attractive specs. For sport what matters the most is speed and best AF, and in that regard nothing comes close to the A9. It wasn't snappy but rather clunky and quirky. I'm pretty flippin tired of videography assessments intermingled with photography assessments on STILLS cameras. It also has face- and eye-detection AF and features continuous shooting at up to 5 fps (or 4fps with Servo AF tracking of moving subjects), and a UHS-II SD card with unrestricted buffering (depending on remaining card capacity). OK, case closed. The event, which will show off a new 'DN' lens for mirrorless camera systems, is set to take place at 7am ET (4am PT) on December 1. And then what? It migh be nice if DPReview could add numerical values to the bar showing RAW and JPG image quality in their "Conclusions" graphic. But yes you can get professional results with your 6d and entry level primes) Your hypocrisy is the only coherent aspect of your argument. "Adjusting to a sub par EVF is not an option where an OVF gives you 100% capabilities of the human eye". The 'One Shot' documentary highlights the incredible amount of preparation and work involved in photographers capturing iconic moments in Olympic history. Well, and that is why art is perception... Brown's work just does not speak to me. # 2 Canon EOS M50. Other features such as AF and burst you will find are pretty much on par, build is not but it will handle more than you think. You continue to take the stance that as you have what you perceive to be the “best”camera that this makes you a better photographer. What’s the best camera for less than $1000? These images have been produced into a gorgeous photo book. It means that, if the picture on the right, taken at 35mm, covers the whole sensor, the picture on the left, taken with the 15mm, has been cropped and enlarged to show the subject at the same size. I think this review says more about the reviewers than it does about the camera. Check out the winners of the 2020 DPReview Awards! Todays consumer cameras can be used to get professional results all day long. Also, remember that aperture values are only true at infinity focus, so make sure your subject is quite far away. You think the worst of things. Nothing will work for you. I still have one and it doesn’t miss a beat. If you have issue getting good results in 2019, sorry but the camera has little to do with your sub par results"I clearly leave Canon at home and shoot Sony so I can embrace inferiority complex and subpar cameras. Why would you think that was a literal statement? Gambler? Sorry but this is irrefutable fact. Most Sony users are delusional hacks with an inferiority complex. . I didn’t think about that over hanging tree branch suddenly falling out of nowhere and landing your camera. By professionals I mean people hired to document something using a camera (like an event). Like I said if you cannot get results with ANY camera in 2019 it’s not the cameras fault for your sub par results. That is true for some, yet, it is good justification for paying like today's technology because yesterday technology is much cheaper. (EOS 77D, ...). The truth is you will not become a pro because you are scared. Yes this camera will be suitable for professional work. As long as you make vague, unsupported arguments what you say is irrelevant, I did not fail to read your point, it was irrelevant as presented. I will have to wait and see if the R7 comes out and is comparable to the 7D. Btw I shot for a long time with Canon pro bodies and I still have a 1DX collecting dust on the shelf. Just like the constant air humidity in some parts of the world kills the consumer level cameras rather easily. "You also have poor business sense.. "Not a lousy camera" - Compared to what? @entoman Unfortunately they have not. In fact not sure why I didn’t go for it, lol. @kodacolor200 - Did you forget to take your pills?Normally, the normal brain of the normal person defends itself from stress by forgetting all the bad things (or at least it should). Kinda confused about the RF's weather sealing. Some are mirrorless, some not. That's all. @kodacolor200I do not have a problem with you having your own opinion. Many professionals don’t need a camera that is a full spec sheet or designated “pro”. Copyright © 2008-2020 DXOMARK. Being professional has nothing to do with the camera or perceptions a camera gives. Since a few weeks I’m the owner of a Canon EOS R5. You are suggesting to rent one D850 when you could OWN D750’s that you can sell on for the same $$ You are paying a rental service not only for the camera + their cut. No. Sorry. There's plenty of "art" and artists that nobody knows or cares about. So, you are an artist then, but not a pro photog. The Laowa 15mm F4.5 Zero-D Shift lens lets you shift perspective without moving the camera, correct for converging lines and more. They're getting better, and now that Lumix is taking MILC ergonomics seriously, hopefully Nikon, Canon, and Sony will get real about MILC ergos and finally make a MILC that impresses me. Not vice versa. Now, as the year winds down, we're highlighting some of our standout products of the year. You just see limitations. Most cameras are not weather sealed. We can use it for many things, including art. @GeorgeWell, certainly there are trolls here, but i don't really buy into the speculation that cameramakers hire trolls. you just seem to have hard time adapting. You will probably break and fail before it does. I told you to enjoy your A9. you just need skill and drive and yes, you need to take a few risks. In the process of keeping up with technology, switching to the A9 has been for me the single gear upgrade that has most significantly impacted my work. You keep insinuating I’m cheap for some reason. In that regard, this camera fails. You also have a spare if one fails. At the moment, those wanting better sensor performance from a Canon full-frame mirrorless camera, particularly with regard to dynamic range, will have to spend considerably more on the Canon EOS R. This said, noise levels and color accuracy are very good and not that far behind the sensors in the Nikon Z 6 and Sony A7 III. Verdict. Your camera certainly has considerably more than 7 stops of dynamic range. Put it this way. When you buy a phone you call it an investment too?Besides, you can rent with buy out option. DXOMARK invites our readership (you) to post comments on the articles on this website. Sigma's new primes promise very good performance and light weight, when paired with L-mount and Sony E-mount mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. And yes, I've been guilty of that as well. You would understand that it is often both sides of the human condition that are represented. The term professional applies to someone who is making a living from photography that is the definition. I always found canons raw incredible bad for editing... especially with that dynamic range of the 6d sensor. I think we have had 2700 comments already before. I would rather shoot a 6DM2 over ANY mirrorless (and i say that as a Nikon shooter who also owns a 7RM2). What a stupid design decision. Particularly for war. I paid £850 UK for it. Worth mentioning ... so you mentioned it twice in these comments. Canon has been criticised throughout much of the past decade for putting subpar sensors in their cameras. I'm generally pleased with this camera and it focusses well with my 300mm f4 + 2x converter. If any. If you actually read my comments and weren’t lost of the concept of nuance - you would note that I said some of the best sports photography I have seen was taken with a 4x 5.

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